Comments on: HSUS and ASPCA working together in Missouri

By: Beth

Beth — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 23:00:43 +0000

This is way too confusing to me. Why is Missouri the only state mentioned? I just got done writing out a check for the HSUS and felt good that I was helping out just a little bit. I love animals and I love my cat. Then I come across this site that says they don’t help the animals and they just kill them and keep the money. If I had proof that the HSUS or ASPCA were really so bad I wouldn’t send them another cent. I know some animal shelters in Wisconsin have no problem with putting animals to sleep the same day they get them. There’s one Animal Shelter in Wisconsin that does their best to help as many animals as they can and I take money right over to their shelter along with pet food and whatever they need. They have a site that mentions what they need for the pets at their shelter so I know with them it isn’t all about money. I’ve been down south to several states and the razor backs that I see tell me that they aren’t in the healthiest environment. Who should I believe?

By: donna sauer

donna sauer — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:54:40 +0000

Ask breeders what they do with their 10 yea3-old dogs that can’t be bred abymore. I live on a “dump dog” country road in St. Clair County in Missouri and it is not unusual to see 5 or 6 poor old scottish terriers or any other breed left out wandering on the road. .

There are also several puppy mills (one on Hwy B west of Roscoe in St Clair County) where cages are stacked 4 and 5. High and the dogs walk on wire their entire life.

Humans are not “owners” of other species but “stewards”who will show compassion and mercy. As Jesus said, “As you do unto the least of these, you do unto me.”

By: snickers

snickers — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:38:23 +0000

The comment about connecting local and national humane societies was in response to commenter “Steve” who commented about his MIL being denied an adoption. As far as them being the only ones listed when the piece was written… how long before its publish date was it written? Because the coalition was kicking off in early January, and the HSMO and MAAL were most definitely involved even then.
As far as ‘a few’ bad operators. Think about statistics. Look at the numbers- the state to state breakdown is available online. As of 2008, MO had over 1800 licensed breeders, that number having gone up to over 1900 between then and now. Consider how many of these are the backyard breeding operations trying to make a buck in the hurting economy- people continue to buy puppies, so MO’s puppy market thrives- thousands and thousands of puppies and breeding adults are bought and sold in MO’s auctions every month. Consider how many of the BBB claims remain unresolved that are linked directly to MO breeders. Consider how many breeders have consistent citations on their MODA reports- consistent need for veterinary care, consistent need to provide potable water, consistent need for food, consistent need for safe housing, etc. Looking at semantics: a few generally means three to four. Significantly more than three or four bad operators exist in Missouri. There is a significant need to hold the nearly 2,000 licensed breeders to basic humane standards- and I’m not just throwing that word around: I mean humane at its most basic: clean water, regular food, safe housing that allows them to stretch and turn around and protects them from freezing or sweltering temperatures, and veterinary care when they are in pain and OTC medicine isn’t helping. This should be NOTHING for any reputable, respectable breeder; they make plenty of profit on the puppies to cover the cost of safe housing, food, water, and veterinary care. Allowing our state the dubious honor of being the #1 Puppy Mill state does nothing for the reputation of the respectable breeders in our state- the ones who are not only licensed but whose facilities are safe, whose dogs are cared for, and who breed not only for profit but for the benefit and furtherance of breed standards. I have family and friends who breed dogs and yes, they want to make a profit, but none of whom want to be connected to the many substandard breeders across our state, and none of whom get multiple, consistent citations for not taking care of their dogs.

By: Cyndi Young

Cyndi Young — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:21:03 +0000

At the time this piece was written, the only organizations that were listed as working on this were HSUS and ASPCA. Nowhere in this piece did I make a connection between my local humane society and HSUS. I know they are not the same! MUCH investigation has been done into the work of HSUS. And I don’t understand your statement that having nearly 2,000 licensed breeders constitutes much more than ‘a few’ bad operators.

By: snickers

snickers — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:53:09 +0000

A few misconceptions are running rampant on here… a) the coalition not only includes HSUS and ASPCA, but also the Missouri Alliance for Animal Legislation and the Humane Society of Missouri. b) the HSUS is not your local humane society. Claiming that the HSUS is trying to keep your MIL from adopt is silly. The local humane society IS NOT the HSUS, should not be the HSUS, and could not do what the HSUS does. c) the HSUS does more direct care than people seem to realize: they run several sanctuaries, including Black Beauty Ranch down in Texas, and they pour millions of dollars into emergency relief efforts. People claiming it’s mishandled should be doing a bit more investigation before making such claims; they continue to pour money into places affected by Katrina and other disasters, and have had grant programs to help animals affected by foreclosures, etc d) the legislation is not targeted at people with hunting dogs, show dogs, etc. It is targeted at the hundreds of unethical, out-of-control breeders across our state. I’d say that having nearly 2,000 licensed breeders constitutes much more than ‘a few’ bad operators. More like hundreds. 1/3 of all puppies in US pet stores come from Missouri, and more than half of illness claims and disputes that go through the Better Business Bureau to breeders in MO remain unresolved- that means many more than ‘a few’ breeders are unethical. And right now, MO doesn’t have the laws to allow good enforcement; this measure would give inspectors the ability to actually make enforce humane care as opposed to simply giving citations and fines.

By: Reasonable

Reasonable — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:53:19 +0000

The very fact that you and others commenting would compare a living creature with an inanimate object (pair of shoes) is eloquent testament to the need for such legislation. I wish these groups much success.

By: Cyndi Young

Cyndi Young — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:10:23 +0000

ANIMALS ARE NOT HUMAN.

By: lacebrs

lacebrs — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:11:48 +0000

You all sound like a bunch of stone age hicks. Comparing living animals to shoes, etc. First of all, breeding dogs is a disgusting way to make money. millions are being dumped at shelters every year, and PEOPLE still keep breeding them to sell for money. You would not breed humans and sell them for money would you? Why would you do it to animals? And as far as agriculture? Vegetarian diets are much healthier, and much less CRUEL! Animals are not here for humans to use and take advantage of. Animals are here and also have rights! They are living, feeling beings, not SHOES, CYNDI YOUNG!

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By: Ronda

Ronda — Sat, 23 Jan 2010 18:51:19 +0000

Unfortunately alot of people in our state do not know what is going on. We have started a grass roots effort to get the word out. You can google Topix plus any town in mo along with MO. There are forums to voice your opinion. Some get alot of attention. Some not so much. But the word is slowly getting out. Any one wishing to voice their opinion is invited to join in. We are also going to sale barns, vet clinics, feed stores and such. Any place that has to do with animal agriculture. Please help spread the word about the threat on Mo animal agriculture.